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Hypocritical Animal Activists
"Dear PET+BLOGSPOT,
I am a dog lover from Kuala Langat and have been following the exploits of many local animal activists and their groups through newspaper articles and of course, the internet for many years.
I am writing this letter because I can no longer stand the level of hypocrisy portrayed by some of these so called animal activists especially the one named MDDB.
I am saying this because it seems to me that based on some of the MDDB’s hypocritical statements, they actually do not want council dog catchers to be trained to catch strays more humanely and they would rather that dogs that are caught be put to sleep immediately.
It also seems that the MDDB does not want pet owners to license their dogs with their respective councils. So I guess, they’re also against the pet responsibility practices that are practiced all over the world.
When the Selangor state government announced in the newspaper that they were planning to build a state managed animal pound complete with full facilities which would include veterinary services and perhaps animal adoptions, many agreed it was a good idea.
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Would the recent animal abuse case whereby Majlis Perbandaran Kajang was involved, happen if such a facility actually existed? I doubt it!
In fact, with such a building in place, it would be compulsory for captured strays to be kept for a number of days before conducting humane euthanasia.
Today, councils without facilities either practice shooting to kill or to catch and euthanize on the very same day.
So you could imagine my confusion when I read the statement by the MDDB, “Luckily the soil was not suitable for the project and the entire plan was temporarily flushed down the toilet”.
The MDDB people also condemned Mr Anthony Siva Balan Thanasayan when he brought someone to talk to the Majlis Perbandaran Klang dog catchers and showed videos of how to approach stray dogs in a friendly rather than an aggressive way.
By the way, from the statements in Mr Anthony’s blog, the SPCA Selangor was also present at the event.
A quick search on the internet revealed that the SPCA Selangor themselves on many occasions held similar talks and conducted demonstrations on humane dog catching to many a council.
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So why didn’t the MDDB condemn the SPCA Selangor, WSPA and RSPCA as well? Are they afraid of the larger animal welfare organizations?
This strange but true revelation proves how hypocritical and shameless the MDDB really is!
These are the very people that I believe, are trying to undermine the good efforts of many others in trying to solve the stray related problems in Malaysia.
Can anyone tell me why this is happening?
Justine Pang
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17 comments:
KAH-KA_KA!!! I just baca that stupid MDDB response to Justine's letter!!! The writer sudah GABRA oredy!!!
She say the term "catching strays humanely" don't exist and people who use this term ialah OXYMORONS!!!
THAT MEANS SHE ACTUALLY HENTAM ALL SPCA,PAWS,HOPE,SAS,PETFINDER,GRASS AND ALL THE OTHER GROUPS AS WELL? MOST OF THEM SAY THIS BEFORE!!!!
TAN SRI LEE LEE LAM THYE ALSO SAY IN THE NEWS - "Catching strays must be done humanely and not in a cruel manner"! SO MDDB CALLING TAN SRI AN OXYMORON ALSO?
EH!NOW I ALSO SEE MDDB LOGO IN THE PETITION! SO SHE ALSO CALL HERSELF AN OXYMORON? THEN SHE MUST BE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE OXYMORON OF ALL!!!!!
ANTONY, IF I STILL HAVE MY DUA KAKI I SUMPAH, DIA KENA KAT BUNTUT!!!!!
MAS
I agree with you Justine!!!The MDDB is a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!
I ROFL when I read their response...."MDDB: There is no such thing as humane euthanasia".A STUPID AND IGNORANT remark made without thinking properly!
And all is this coming from an animal activist who claims to be all knowing?
HEY MDDB WRITER!DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELF ANY FURTHER AND GOOGLE IT UP!OR,READ THE "DVS HUMANE GUIDELINES ON CATCHING AND EUTHANASIA OF STRAY DOGS".(You supported the petition so you must have a copy right?)
What?You don't read so well?NVM!I'm sure you could get some crash courses from the more experienced and knowledgeable animal welfare groups!Or better yet!Write a letter to one of the international organizations like Animal Asia,RSPCA UK or Mayhew!BODOH!!!
Justine = Anthony? Anthony, R u writing 2 yrself using Pseudonym????
Hello Anthony!
Just read the letter and that stupid angry reply by that silly heavyweight from MDDB! By the way Ant, she's pegged the letter on you too!
After so long and she is still so dumbfounded when it comes to certain issues?
first and foremost, what is so humane about euthanasia, just because it is a stray?!
and worst of all, this happened on 26th Nov:
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150384388476658
was that before or after the "humane" training?
I've known all along that the MDDB founder was a HUCKSTER! Just look at the way she wriggles all over the place! Really fun to watch!
Dear Bavani,
Euthanasia, if you check with the dictionary is "the act of killing an animal or person so that THEY DO NOT SUFFER ANY MORE."
Regarding the MDDB report, I will have to do my own investigation to find out what happened as MDDB has lost all its credibility in providing RESPONSIBLE and ACCURATE reporting.
And as for your last remark that is obviously tinged with sarcasm owing to frustration over the matter, the answer is no.
Dogcatchers are not experts in their work. Most, if not all of them are roped in to carry out the local councils bidding - including getting rid of strays that cause havoc and disease in the neighborhoods.
But the question is, who are we to determine if their suffering should end by putting them down - do you think it is their preferred choice?
There are other alternatives that were proven to work in other countries, why do we have to resort to putting them down? TNRM has worked for years in many countries. Yes it involves cost, but paying the dog catchers on no. of dogs caught basis involves cost too. With TNRM, the population eventually reduces and proper pounds have been built in these countries with good facilities and caretakers for remaining strays and abandoned dogs. You rarely see strays in the streets of Western Europe, just to name one. And it is not something that they achieved overnight and yes we have way too many strays but there's always a start to everything and that's how they started in attempt to reduce the population and it worked! The longer we remain pessimistic about it without actually attempting, more strays are going to die inhumanely due to our lack of compassion to giving them a chance to live.
regarding the report provided by MDDB on what happened in Pulau Ketam, please enlighten us with your findings to verify if their report is inaccurate because as a dog lover I'd like to know the truth and also know what's the next course of action for that case of cruelty should your findings prove that inhumane incident did take place; especially since a humane way of dog catching training has been conducted although I personally disagree with putting them down in the first place.
Dear Bavani,
Thanks for your speedy reply.
I sincerely wish that we don't have to put any animal down.
But we are not living in a Utopia for dogs.
These animals are unwanted. They are a direct result of irresponsible pet owners - not the local councils.
They are also the result of hypocritical animal NGOs that have done squat to educate local councils in the past to this day.
Life outside the home is not a home for animals. Malaysian society, unfortunately, is not a kind one for strays.
People do all sorts of cruel things to get rid of strays. The council, on the other hand, are much kinder, when they work with animal experts to put them down painlessly.
Why don't animal NGOs take them all in? MPK gives out their dogs free of charge from the pound.
I appreciate your views on Trap, Neuter, Release and Manage.
But frankly, and contrary to your claims, it has never successfully worked anywhere.
Even People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and not for TNRM.
Don't blame the dogcatchers - they are just doing their jobs. Have any of the sanctimonious animal NGOs bothered to train them how to do it? Don't forget, training is a continuous programme - not a one-off thingy and then writing it in a file as "Been there, done that."
If you really want to change things, don't go after the dogcatchers. Go to the politicians and ask them to change the bylaws.
But remember, animals carry disease. There is a responsibility to keep humans safe as well.
Regarding Pulau Ketam, I will find out. You can do it too by speaking to the director of MPK.
If animal NGOs can take them all in, I reckon they would. They are afterall NGOs who don't get paid for rescuing these dogs - so cost is an issue. However if there's such thing as directing the funds that have been allocated to the department and people in charge of the local pounds, dog catchers, and all others that are related to the mentioned; not forgetting the land and money used to build the currently unkept pounds, TNRM set in place and given enough time - I believe the NGOs might do a great job. It may sound comical but you get the gist - give the NGOs the necessary support. They just need to be heard and not have their suggestions and findings pushed aside by declaring everything as false.
The problem is that their suggestion on TNRM is not attempted or even considered; and at the same time they disagree with euthanasia and so do I - so why would they want to help educate the dog catchers on the right methods of catching the dogs when they do not even condone trapping the dogs into death in the first place? So the battle here is not solely about how the dog catchers are doing their job but the purpose of the existence of their role - to catch and kill the dogs.
Well I do not wish to paste links and prove if TNRM has ever worked - there are many success stories that can be easily found and exchanging links over here is just about taking it to a whole new level of proving who's right or wrong - which is what I'm not here for. As a Malaysian and an animal lover, I despise the idea of putting strays down based on certain parties' assumption that it is the best solution to end their suffering without taking into consideration of others who beg to differ.
I will do my part on investigating the Pulau ketam incident however with due respect for your work with the local councils, I'd highly appreciate your findings and report to verify if this did happened, and what is the next course of action should MDDB's report on this be accurate and how are the local councils going to work on combatting these cruel acts since this is not the first as we all know it.
Hello Bavani.I'm curious to know.Based on your findings, TNRM has worked for years in many countries and you also mentioned, "You rarely see strays in the streets of Western Europe, just to name one." Which country or countries are you talking about?
Bavani,can you also explain about TNRM and what are the steps and costs involved?
William
"Have any of the sanctimonious animal NGOs bothered to train them how to do it? Don't forget, training is a continuous programme - not a one-off thingy and then writing it in a file as "Been there, done that."
Er.. Why should NGOs who operate soley on public donations & hold full-time jobs train dogcatchers? Didn't the council bring in an 'expert' from Aust.? What happened to those who trained under the Aussie expert? Even after training they are still so cruel. What's the point of wasting taxpayers money??? I think we, taxpayers should be given a say. We say NO to cruel dogcatchers & euthanasia.
Dear Bavani
Seriously, if it's impossible for animal NGOs to take in all the dogs in the world, why should the councils be expected to do so also?
And by the way, animal rescue work rakes in good money these days - especially when stories are sensationalized to the public with pathetic pictures and deliberate distortions.
And where is accountability?
By the way, it isn't the NGOs only that have "no money". Local councils face the same fate cos they hardly have any budget put in for animal work - hence dogcatchers are given incentives for each dog they catch.
I'm not saying this is right but merely stating the facts in case you don't know.
Your ideas of directing special funds for local pounds, land etc are all terrific ideas but frankly, easier said than done.
You are right, NGOs need to be heard.
But in order to do that, they need desperately to learn some house rules:
Don't be rude and curse local councils. Don't use abusive language. Don't think by saying the F-word will bring people down to their knees.
As Mark Twain said, never bite the hand that feeds you. In this case, the local councils.
Protest by all means and make your voices heard. But don't insult. It's the dogs that stand to suffer in the end.
You have made it clear you are against euthanasia. But you don't offer a solution on what to do with the unwanted animals.
Some of the finest and best NGOs and countries use euthanasia on unwanted animals.
They do it because they have no choice.
Like I said, if you want to get rid of dogcatchers, change the bylaws that insist on their role.
If TNRM works, why did the hypocritical animal NGOs refuse to give details (scientific evidentce) of its success when Selangor State Health Director Dr Xavier asked them for it?
Instead they chided him for asking for the facts and suspected that he would use the information to round up the dogs in a so-called "TNRM colony."
When you make a proposal to the government, you must have your facts in hand as well as scientific evidence of proof of its success.
The government is not a coffee shop management.
Glad you will do your part on checking out about Pulau Ketam and I will also put out any information that is useful in this blog if and when I get it.
Keep up your pressure on governments for better treatment of all animals.
Dear TNRM,
You wrote;
"Er.. Why should NGOs who operate soley on public donations & hold full-time jobs train dogcatchers? Didn't the council bring in an 'expert' from Aust.? What happened to those who trained under the Aussie expert? Even after training they are still so cruel. What's the point of wasting taxpayers money??? I think we, taxpayers should be given a say. We say NO to cruel dogcatchers & euthanasia."
It is the responsibility of each and every NGO whether for dogs, cats, disabled or women's right to educate local governments and the public at large.
How could one dog-catching exercise turn everyone into perfect beings? Are you suggesting that no training at all be given to anybody?
If that is the case, then why complain?
Please don't lump all local councils together.
By the way TNRM,
I forgot to mention that for every taxpayer who doesn't support euthanasia and dog-catching, there are ten and twenty times more of taxpayers who want all strays dead.
So what is your point really?
Just read what the MDDB wrote about Pulau Ketam. Very far fetched as usual, but they have alleged that a locally appointed dogcatcher is breeding dogs to increase the population. And in doing so, the islander would be able to claim more from the MPK. Where's the PROOF?
Unless they have solid proof to back up their claims, the MDDB should not be writing implicating stories like these. Seems to me that they are the only animal group that uses this style of writing, perhaps to get attention! There was a word used that perfectly describes them. HUCKSTER!!!
The MDDB are idiots and whiners! All they seem to do is "Why this and why that" or "blame here and blame there"....
Just think about it! Whether TNRM will be implemented at all is not up to the government or the local councils!
IT'S UP TO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE!!!!!
Looks to me like the Pulau Ketam islanders don't care for TNRM either!!!
Leong
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